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luladisu (Guild Council Member) 5/23/2012 10:10 AM EST : Indoor bard soloing techniques? And other questions...
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I like to solo a lot, and have it down pretty well in outdoor zones (though I can't swarm kite yet, but that's okay). Anyone have suggestions for soloing in indoor zones? I'm tired of outdoor zones. Loot generally sucks. I'd like to try Seb and KD, but am not sure how to proceed with it.

My only lull is Kelin's Lugubrious Lament, a level 8 song (unless there's another I don't know about- I might be missing a couple of songs). I could lull and single pull, and might try that. What songs would you use? I'm thinking Battlecry of the Vah Shir (15% haste), Verses of Victory (ATK 30%, AGI, AC, STR30), and Psalm of Mystic Shielding (MR, Absorb Dmg, AC, +5hp/tick) and toss in Heal song when needed.

That seems so slow, though, and I know there's a more efficient way to take down mobs even in indoor zones. I'd like to try charm kiting, but the mobs I've tried to con, even some the dark blue ones to me at 53, have said they cannot be charmed, so I am thinking what I read about the cap on level of mobs you can charm being 51 is accurate (though there's some conflicting info). (I was able to charm the ravagers in PoN, who are level 51, I think.) Is there a charm song upgrade? If not, that sucks, because I use it a lot.

I've never been big on fear-kiting and am not against trying it, but I don't think it will work too well in places like Seb, which is where I wanna hit. Is single pulling my only option? Any pointers for me?

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Sylex (Member) 5/23/2012 10:16 PM EST : RE: Indoor bard soloing techniques? And other questio...
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Well, I have to say that charm kiting was always too damn difficult and sloppy until I acquired Fading Memories with a decent amount of mana to back it up, considering the fact that mobs will kill your poor pet before you can break the charm and DoT it to death, thus wasting the exp you could have obtained from it. And this was for outdoors zones. I don't know about how much room Seb would provide, but KD would be pretty decent considering the spacious corridors.

You're right about the level 8 lull being the only lull song--you didn't miss any. The next one is not until 61 because the level 8 one is supposed to work on mobs up to level 60, although resists start happening much earlier. So, it's just best to keep your fingers crossed on that one, especially indoors with the increased aggro ranges. Until the level 64 charm (Call of the Banshee)--which only charms up to level 57 mobs, wtf--there is no "upgrade" that can raise the level 51 cap of level 39 charm (Solon's Bewitching Bravura). 

As for indoor zones, I have never tried a great deal of soloing. . .but I can give a few recommendations as to what may work and not work at that level:
1. Single to multiple charm pulls can be quite feasible if you have SoW, maintain a distance, and snare both or just the "non-pet(s)" (if you are feeling ambitious). Then, when one, or both, becomes low on health, hit one with a mezz and DoT / beat the other to death. The only downside to this, if you are snaring both, is you are also lowering the attack speed and agility of both, creating a slower fight overall but also increasing your chances of survival during a premature wear-off of the charm. I suppose this can be done with multiple mobs at a time quite successfully if you are willing to mezz and snare multiples / run around a bit more. HoV / 9's / Fo7th always helps lol. This would probably be the most efficient way to do indoor solo. It's similar to outdoor, with a lot more room for dangers and mistakes, but it is a method than can be similarly mastered to minimize those dangers and mistakes--in the end, though, more exp and better loot!
2. I'm not big on fear kiting--never have been. It always ends up in disaster for me. And it would be dangerous until you acquire AoE snare at lvl 54.
3. As for going balls-out with haste / regen / psalm, it sounds awfully risky. Psalm of Mystic Shielding only absorbs magic-based damage, which isn't always the case in these higher level dungeons, and it's only 15pts, which isn't a ton compared to what they will be bashing you for. Honestly, in this situation I would recommend maximizing damage output / maintaining a slow on the mob and ignoring the defensive skills. I wouldn't even attempt it without PoP buffs. I would be quad twisting 3-4 dots while slowing  and snaring with Largo's Assonant Binding (in case you need to run away), and I would also be throwing in some DD nukes with Denon's Desperate Dirge. However, this method can only go so far--not to mention it is slow, inefficient, and unpredictable--because Bards are not by any means a class that should be taking direct hits, and they don't have mana regen to save their lives.

Overall, try my first suggestion. If any of it sounds confusing. . .I'll try to clarify. Tell me how it works.

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Tewaz1 (Member) 5/28/2012 5:45 PM EST : RE: Indoor bard soloing techniques? And other questio...

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I have done some lower guk before while waiting for my mask of the deciever.  All I did was snare and dot the mob while staying away from them.  Other than that, you are left with fearing or charming and those can be dangerous indoors.  I heard rumors of a guy AE kiting the entry area in KC, but I don't think AE kiting works too well on this server.

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