I got the bug and decieded to tackle those mysterious box image element editors... enough trial and error produced a good upgrade to my site .. it took me far too long to get it right, soon tho i'll post a how to in the general forum.btw.. my link is redirected, so once your there and you want to go back.. you have to backspace two clicks instead of one.also.. for a limited time I opened up the sections that usually only members could see (my site was pretty plain hehe for general public). Finally, we think we have our site where it works best for us, feel free to browse around. You'll notice I have a few scripts running on my own webspace, I think they each have links to their sources if your inclined.