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Dira Warscribe (Applicant) 10/6/2011 11:28 PM EST : Need a little advise on a human favorite soul link

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I am thinking about building a FS, but do not want to be a pure heal bot. Mainly one that can do dps, heal and damage spells. I also am looking at start with a 32 pt build.
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Misscarlet (SuperAdmin) 10/7/2011 5:49 AM EST : RE: Need a little advise on a human favorite soul link
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The one I am building is pure offensive spells, well with some heals of course.  Might be wise to talk to aelyin or alauna, they both have fvs that melee.  So I think does cordus.  Others probably do too I just forget.
... its all in good fun until someone loses an eye!
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Svett (Officer) 10/7/2011 7:15 AM EST : RE: Need a little advise on a human favorite soul link

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Just a few quick suggestions from me:

1. If you're not set on human and want to be a pure fvs, try going WF LoB. You get greatsword proficiency, WF enhancements and DR and are able to skip the THF feat line for extra casting feats w/o losing much if any physical damage. Pump STR and CON. Have enough CHA to maintain 19 with items and tomes (for level 9 spells) and little backup for the times you get CHA drained.
Pros: you do good physical damage, free to get all caster feats you want (save the DC-related ones) so you're better healer than any other combat oriented fvs, your Divine Punishment is unaffected since it doesn't have a save (for now), you got loads of HP and the ability to get up to 15 DR/ada with capstone. Also, this is loads of fun to play and level.
Cons: low DCs so Blade barriers will be useless against mobs that have evasion; you also need to work on your healing amp.


2. Human longsword dual-wielder with splash (probably monk2 for extra feats and evasion). I must admit I haven't played one of those. You aren't as feat starved as a pure fvs and if you go monk the extra feats really help (for a TWF fvs you need the entire TWF line or your DPS will suffer greatly). You will have to skip some caster feats, lose the capstone and have less SP than a pure fvs.

Pros: More feats than a pure fvs. Evasion is nice, though you need to pump your reflex a bit. If you pick monk you also get to use a monk-stance if centered (but you have to use kamas or wraps as weapons...). 2 more feats than a pure fvs.
Cons: Ability points are all over the place (you need 17 dex for the whole TWF line), less SP, low DCs, no capstone. Less spells than a pure fvs (you end up with a single level 9 spell). Less damage with Divine Punishment.


3. Pure human TWF with longswords - 15 dex to get full TWF feats with +2 tomes, decent CON, the rest goes to STR. You get 8 feats to choose from: 3 for TWF line, PA, Toughness and Quicken are a must, so you're left with 2 feats from: Maximize, Empower Spell, Empower healing (you must have at least 1 of those 3 or your healing will suck really really bad; my choice would be Maximize) and Improved Critical (you can skip this if you plan to make and use 2x Min2).

Pros: Decent offensive damage casting, ok DPS, capstone, more spells and SP than splashes.
Cons: Low DCs, worse healing than WF or caster-specced fvs. Though to distribute ability points.


4. 19 fvs / 1 fighter (Or other class with martial prof) (Half-orc is a nice race) + THF weapon; Alternatively 20 half-elf fvs with Fighter dil - The deal here is getting proficiency with a THF weapon (probably Falchion), skip THF feats line and get more caster feats (as with WF LoB fvs).


5. 20 fvs - ignore combat feats, get Max, Empower spell, Heighten and Quicken. Decent CON, max WIS, some STR. Run around, Cometfall, Greater command, BB, Energy drain and Destruction / Implosion. I know this is not what you're asking for, but if you haven't tried it - it's LOADS of fun. You can still use some THF weapon (mostly q-staves or EpicSOS if you get one), but you won't want to melee with that casting power. You can also pick shield prof and use a weapon you are proficient with and melee if you want. Really, if you haven't tried a caster before, this one is a total blast.

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Coit1 (Associate) 10/8/2011 7:02 AM EST : RE: Need a little advise on a human favorite soul link
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Here's a template that I used on my first version of Coitrippr, it's the build setup that got me into melee/dc combo fvs playing in the first place, after which i started to run my own numbers based on my gear sets and prefernces (and banked tomes,etc).

This one lets you do it all fairly well, not the best at anything, but damn good at most things (for the lvl 18 feat i'd go with empower, but you may want to have a go at some of the other choices in this setup, it's a loose template that you can fiddle with quite a bit without gimping it badly.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 True Neutral Human
(20 Favored Soul)

Hit Points:
20 Heroic Durabiity
160 L20 FvS
100 Con Bonus
10 Draconic
22 Toughness
60 Toughness Enh
30 GFL
20 Minos
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422
45 Shroud Item
10 SUperior False Life
20 Rage Temp Bonus
20 +2 Exceptional Con
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517


Spell Points:
1730 base
232 CHR Bonus
150 EotS
400 Archmagi
300 Exceptional
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2812

BAB: 15/15/20/2525

20 BAB(Divine Power)
8 STR Bonus
3 DIvine Favor
5 Weapons
1 FvS
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+37
-4/-4 Oversized TWF (Dual Longswords)
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+33/+33
4 GH
1 Haste
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+38 Self Buffed
well over +40 WIth Bard Song. +50 is obtainable for short Bursts and Epic/Raid gear


Fortitude/Reflex/Will

12/12/12 Base L20 FvS
5/7/13 Atributes
5/5/5 Resistance
1/1/1 Ritual
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23/25/31
4/4/4 GH
2/2/2 Luck
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29/31/37



Abilities
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
{27}Strength 15+2 TOme +1Human +6 Item 2 Rage +1 LotD
{24}Dexterity 15+2 Tome +6 Item +1 LotD
{21}Constitution 12+2 TOme +6 Item +1 LotD
{17}Intelligence 8+2 Tome +6 Item as needed
{36}Wisdom 16+5 Levels +2 Tome +2 FvS +1 Human +6 Item +3 Exceptional +1 LotD
{26}Charisma 10 +2 Tome +2 FvS +2 Capstone +6 Item +3 Exceptional +1 LotD

Of course, there are other potential sources of Stats... +3/+4 Tomes, Yugoloth Pots, etc etc....

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Skills:
Max Concentration and UMD FIrst. Add Jump if you eat a +2 INT TOme.


Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness

Level 2 (Favored Soul)

Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 4 (Favored Soul)

Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 7 (Favored Soul)

Level 8 (Favored Soul)

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Level 11 (Favored Soul)

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 13 (Favored Soul)

Level 14 (Favored Soul)

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Sonic
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critcal: Slashing

Level 16 (Favored Soul)

Level 17 (Favored Soul)

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Varies, See Note

Level 19 (Favored Soul)

Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialiization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

NOTE FOr Level 18 Feat: you have several good choices here.
FOr Melee, you can take Improved Crit, Power Attack, or even Oversize TWF.
FOr Casting, Empower Spell or Heighten could work well.
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Coit1 (Associate) 10/8/2011 7:09 AM EST : RE: Need a little advise on a human favorite soul link
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Just a quick note on the template i've posted above there, i used this before the Angel of Vengeance came in, the pre-req's aren't hard to satisfy, just drop the unyielding sovereignty, scroll mastery 4,  and maybe a toughness from the enhancement list to give you the ap's you want to pick up the PRE and to max out your smiting line for the dp damage, I'm sure you won't have any trouble working it out, i remembrer it as being pretty easy to respec when the PRE came in without losing anything important.

Also on a lot of my cleric/fvs guys i've been switching out extend for another more useful feat at lvl 15 these days, it's really up to your own personal preference but if you do, you can pick up another combat feat if you want some more dps (gtwf), or Khopesh if your addicted to that crit range, the alternative is to pick up empower heal for massive mass heals in raid situations if you end up going that way.

Lots of choices there, plenty of room to find and hit your own style of fvs i think

Have fun, Coit out~
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